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Tuco -- it takes 60 in the senate not 51 for this type of vote.

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Congress establishes the desired budget – the imaginatively named “Budget Resolution” – that maybe includes some of the President’s desired spending priorities but usually just includes whatever Congress wants. Or not, because Congress. This is not the final budget. Its only purpose is to set the benchmark for all subsequent appropriation and authorization bills to follow. House and Senate each pass their own Budget Resolutions that then have to be reconciled into a single, Joint Budget Resolution. These are not subject to filibuster, and so do not need any Democratic support. They may, however, run into problems getting passed if the House and Senate disagree on the benchmarks (such as happens when the House and Senate are controlled by different parties).

You only need 60 for votes that are subject to a filibuster.

That info below is from https://www.quora.com/Does-the-US-budget-actu\nally-need-any-Democrats-to-pass

CNN and others are reporting it takes 60 but my understanding is as below. They only need a majority.

Every where else except below says 60 votes, so I will concede to that. Here is another reason why I am confused. Why didn't they need 60 votes here? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/may\n/5/senate-clears-way-final-passage-congress-b\nudget/

a guess would be cloture

yeah fresca but I don't think that applies here either. If all spending votes require 60 votes in the Senate except Budget Resolutions, then how did they pass a budget in 2015 with 51 votes? So they could have forced a vote via cloture and only needed 51 to pass this resolution? No? And since the Repubs hold 54 seats in the Senate minus 1 for a sick McCain. How many Republicans voted against this and how many Dems voted for it?

I am totally baffled. Someone please explain this to me. :-)

5 R's voted against and 5 D's voted for. But even the NYT headline blames the D's. infuriating.

Mitch McConnell even voted "no" the whole thing is weird. Like he wanted to make sure it failed?

Well good ole Mitch held up a SCOTUS nominee for over a year. He has a huge pair of you know what.

Also, there are only 51 R's in the Senate (plus Mike Pence to break a tie) and 47 D's and 2 independents who caucus with the D's.

lonibelle, you hit the nail on the head. This whole thing is weird.

yes, he does. And many love him for it.

Thanks for that correction. So even if they do need 60 to pass this they never had the votes and the whole vote was a sham.

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5 Democrats voted Yes: Donnelly, Heitkamp, Jones, Manchin, McCaskill. 4 Republicans voted No: Flake, Graham, Lee, Paul.

Fresca, Mitch McConnell voted "no". He is a Republican.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/20/politics/senate\n-vote-government-shutdown/index.html

McConnell did vote no but as a parliamentary maneuver.

ok. but I think it should still be counted as a "no"? why would you not? honestly interested.

Also Bill Nelson tried to get a one day extension to allow for further negotiation and MCConnell refused to allow it to come to the floor.

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4 of the 5 Democrats that crossed party lines are up for re-election so they wanted to do the right thing. They all come from conservative states. I am numb to this tactic as it’s overused has gotten us nowhere and anyone who’s been hurt by it has been made whole.

I hope Trump and the real conservatives
hold out as long as it takes

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